Christof Wehling

Male 1746 - Aft 1800  (> 55 years)


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  • Name Christof Wehling  [1
    Born 1746  Wolfenbuettel, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    • Or Munster, Nordrhein Westfalen
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1800  Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I9993  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2021 

    Father Unk Wehling 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F13462  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Marie Louise Chauvet dit Laderoute,   b. 15 Aug 1772, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jun 1822, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 49 years) 
    Married 1791  Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Nicholas Christophe Walling,   b. 17 Apr 1795, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Oct 1854, Saint Zotique, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years)  [natural]
     2. Jean Baptiste Walling,   b. 17 Sep 1799, Quebec City Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Aug 1886, Sackets Harbor, NY Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years)  [natural]
     3. Jean Henri Wailing,   b. 30 Sep 1792, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Feb 1795, Quebec City Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 2 years)  [natural]
     4. Marie Louise Walling,   b. 8 Feb 1794, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
     5. Marie Marguerite Walling,   b. 19 May 1797, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  [natural]
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2021 
    Family ID F1863  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Elisabeth Manseau,   b. 7 Nov 1762, Trois Rivieres, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 May 1790, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 27 years) 
    Married 5 Sep 1785  Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Christ Church, Montreal
    Children 
     1. Jean Christophe Weihling,   b. 28 Aug 1789, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Sep 1790, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)  [natural]
     2. Marie Weihling,   b. 29 Apr 1787, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Sep 1790, Montreal, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 3 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2021 
    Family ID F5308  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • - The Genealogy of Canada has Chrosophe identified as Ernst Christophe Wehling, b. May, 1762, at Munster, Westphalie, Germany. It also shows the name of his second wife as Louise Chane Laderoute, rather than Louise Chauvet.

      - The Montreal non-Catholic marriage index shows the marriage in 1785 of Elizabeth Frederick and Christopher Weyling at Montreal. Both are Anglican.

      - Year of Record: 1787 (Transcribed from film of original documents held in the collection of the National Archives of Canada) Lower Canada Land Papers. Memorial from 72 disbanded German soldiers to Guy Lord Dorchester requesting the granting of land. Signed at Montreal September 15, 1787. Christo. Willing. Marital status: wife and one child. Occupation: Brunsw. Tr. (Troops.)

      - In 1789 Christof was in Montreal when his first son was born by Elizabeth Manseau. The son died the next year. In Sept., 1792, Christof and wife Margaret were in Monreal, where their first child Henry was born. On Feb. 8, 1794, they were still in Montreal where their second child was born. A year later on Feb. 3, 1795, they were in Quebec City where Henry died. Two months later they were back in Montreal where Nicholas was born. In Sept., 1799, they were back in Quebec City where John was born.

      - Christophe Welling had two children by his first wife and five more by his second. Son Jean Baptiste (John) Walling went to Sacketts Harbor, NY in St. Lawrence County and son Nicholas Christopher stayed in Quebec but his son Robert Walling went to Ogdensburg in St. Lawrence County.

      - Quebec City, Notre Dame du Quebec, April 17, 1795, baptize Nicolas, born this morning of the marriage of Christophe Welling, soldier of the 60th Regiment, and Marie Louise Garnier. The godfather is Nicolas Grass and godmother, Josephte Galneau, they being unable to sign.

      - Quebec City (Anglican Cathedral Holy Trinity Church): John, son of Christopher Welling, private soldier in the second Batallion of his majesty's Sixtieth Regiment of Foot, and of Elizabeth (Louise) his wife, was born September the seventeenth, and baptized October the first, in the year of our Lord 1799 by me Father Scholaptial Mountain, rector of the English Church at Quebec. A daughter, Marie Louise, was born Feb. 8, 1794 and baptized at the Basilica of Notre Dame, Montrea, of Christopher Welhing and Louise (what looks like "La Divonte.")

      Christophe Welling had a distinctive signature and he signed the parish register at the birth of each of his sons; the signatures are identical. Though his name appears in various records as Christoph/Christophe Welling, the signatures show Christof Weihling or Wihling.

      Christophe was a soldier in the British 60th Regiment of Foot and fought in the American Revolution. He was captured at the Battle of Saratoga, escaped and made his way to Canada, marrying in the fall of 1785. His son Nicholas married Eizabeth Newcomb, who had grandfathers on both sides in the Revolutionary War. Elizabeth's grandfather Cyrenius Newcomb was an officer in the American Revolutionary army and her grandfather, Jean George Stubinger, was an officer and physician, a German soldier fighting for the British in the war.

      The Genealogy of Canada lists the marriage of Ernst Christophe Wehling, "soldat des troupes de Brunswick," born, May, 1762 at Munster, Wesphalie, Germany, to Elizabeth Manseau, b. Nov. 7, 1762 at Trois-Rivieres, Quebec (d. May 22, 1790 at age 28) on Sept. 5, 1785 at Christ Church, Ile-de-Montreal, Quebec. The church was established in June, 1785 so this was one of the first marriages in it. And so we know that Christophe was a Protestant.
      In 1959, to note the 175th anniversary of Christ Church, Sorel, Qubec, a history was produced which describes the history of the church, the first Anglican church in Canada, established by Rev. John Doty, who was a British loyalist and played an active part in the Revolutionary War. He was a New York who arrived in Sorel in 1784, finding nearly three hundred families of Loyalists, chiefly from New York, along with 70 families of Loyalists and other Protestants within the town and district of Kingston.
      On Sunday, June 19, 1785, at a regular meeting, it was determined that the legal title of the congregation should be "Christ Church at Sorel, in communion with the Church of England. General Baron Von Reidesill's Brunswickers, of which Chtisophe was one, desired to take an active part in the church. Their inability to read English hindered them in joining in the services of the church, and Mr. Doty requested some German Prayer Books.

      - According to "Brunswick troops in North America, 1776-1783," a listing of German soldiers who fought for the British, Christoph Welling is listed as is his regiment, and the date of his escape from Winter Hill, a POW camp in Mass., on June 6, 1778.

      - A site put up by the Johannes Schwalm Historical Association, Inc., of German soldiers who remained in North American after the Revolution, but whose genealogy to the present generation has not yet been fully researched, has Christophe on their list. According to this site, material taken from German state archives shows that Christoph Welling was from Wolfenbuettel, Germany and arrived at Winterhilll, Mass., in 1778, after being captured at Saratoga in 1777. He was 32 upon arrival, which gives a birth year of 1746. His detatchment of Brunswick mercenaries served mainly in Canada and Northern New York. His rank was unknown, but he served in the Von Riedesel Regiment.

      - http://pages.prodigy.net/halschwalm/jshanore.html - Army and German Town of origin; Military rank or rating; Military unit; Source of military record; Personal information and source for additional information, if any; Christoph Welling; Brunswick; Wolfenbuettel; rank unknown; Von Riedesel Reg.; Smith (Rimpau); Captured at Sarartoga; Deserted from Winterhill in 1778 and married in Montreal in Sep, 1785.

      - Welling, Christophr: 1778 Place: America Source Publication Code: 7495 Primary Immigrant: Welling, Christoph Annotation: Introduction in English, French, and German. Material taken from original in state archives, Wolfenbuettel, Germany, 38B Alt. No. 260. Names, places of birth, ages, times, and places of leaving; but data is not always accurate. Item no. 8560, Smith's Brun Source Bibliography: RIMPAU, HANS HELMUTH. "The 'Brunswickers' in Nordamerika, 1776-1783." Translated by Claus Rimpau and Ina Rimpau. In Archiv fuer Sippenkunde, no. 43 (Aug. 1971), pp. 204-219; no. 44 (Nov. 1971), pp. 293-308; no. 45 (Feb. 1972), pp. 346-355. Page: 353.

      - Arrival: 1778, Winterhill, Mass: Name: Christoph Welling Year: 1778 Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1746 Place: Winterhill, Massachusetts. Source Publication Code: 8560 Primary Immigrant: Welling, Christoph Annotation: From the Staatsarchiv at Wolfenbuettel, Germany, where file 38B Alt. Nr. 260 is a summary list of Brunswick mercenaries sent to America in British service during the American Revolution. The detachment served mainly in Canada and northern New York. Most of Source Bibliography: SMITH, CLIFFORD NEAL. Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the American Revolution. (German-American Genealogical Research Monograph, 1.) Thomson, IL: Heritage House, 1973. [54p.] Page: 46

      - Johannes Schwalm Historical Association, Inc., - German auxiliary soldiers who remained in North America after the Revolutionary War but whose genealogy to the present generation has not yet been fully researched, documented or published in the JSHA Journal (Anyone with information about these soldiers is encouraged to contact the JSHA;) Christoph Welling, Wolfenbuttel, 38304, 1751, RIE, Obrist von Speth, (C) 11, 12, Winter Hill, 06 06 1778.

      - Brunswick troops in North America, 1776-1783. These German soldiers fought for the British in the Revolution and many of them desereted near the end of the war, settling in Canada or indenturing themselves to Americans. Most were natives of the Duchy of Brunswick or from surrounding areas. Only a few came from the southern German states. Records show name, place of birth, postal code of town or village; year of birth; regiment/ battalion/ unit/ company/ rank; and cateogires of presentation such as post-war experienced, desertion, injuries, casualties, capture by the enemy and others.

      - Note found online: Yves Dussault (dussault@vipxlnet.com) writes: I am looking for the origin and descendants of Augustus Welling who was a Braunschweig soldier (Prinz Friedrich regiment). He arrived in Quebec City in 1776 and married Elisabeth Deluga in 1785. Augustus Welling is mentioned in Wm. Vondenvelden's Petitions of 317 Hessian soldiers for land in Quebec, Canadian microfilm C-2897, MG8, G24. (Augustus may be related to Christophe.) There is also among the Braunschweig/Brunswick troops a Christoph Welling /Weyling /Wayling /Walling, born ca. 1745/46, at Winterhill in 1778, a deserter. See Virginia De Marce, German military settlers in Canada, and Clifford Neal Ssmith, Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the American Revolution.

      - Name: Christoph Welling Year: 1852 Place: America Source Publication Code: 9417 Primary Immigrant: Welling, Christoph Source Bibliography: VERDENHALVEN, FRITZ. Die Auswanderer aus dem Fuerstentum Lippe (bis 1877). (Sonderveroeffentlichungen des Naturwissenschaftlichen und Historischen Vereins fuer das Land Lippe, vol. 30.) Detmold, Germany: Naturwissenschaftlicher und Historischer Verein fuer das Land Lippe, 1980. 535p. Page: 275.

      - Name: Christoph Welling Year: 1778 Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1746 Place: Winterhill, Massachusetts Source Publication Code: 8560 Primary Immigrant: Welling, Christoph Annotation: From the Staatsarchiv at Wolfenbuettel, Germany, where file 38B Alt. Nr. 260 is a summary list of Brunswick mercenaries sent to America in British service during the American Revolution. The detachment served mainly in Canada and northern New York. Most o Source Bibliography: SMITH, CLIFFORD NEAL. Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the American Revolution. (German-American Genealogical Research Monograph, 1.) Thomson, IL: Heritage House, 1973. [54p.] Page: 46.

      - In 2000, researcher Lincoln Hornburg noted the following: In the archives in Wolfenbuettel, have unearthed a little information. There were seven churches in Wolfenbuettel in 1777: one Roman Catholic, the others ev. (Luther). The Kirchenbucher (church books - the registrations of baptisms, weddings and burials) go back to the 1600s. Under "Our People" is found: WELLING: In the Am. Rev., a soldier Ledger, Christopf Welling of Wolfenbuettel is entered; age 32, 5 months at time of recruitment (deserted 6.June.1778). Searching Welling, I found: WELLING, George Elias August, born Dec. 23, 1753 - registration, Schlosskirche (Castle Church, or Residenz of the Dukes) Church, Wolfenbuettel. This church, is no longer. However, you will note, no George Elias August appears on the Soldaten (soldiers) ledger. ?? was not part of the official units? Will hunt for a Cristopf next time.

      (Note: Genealogy of Canada has Ernst Christophe Wehling, b. May, 1762, at Munster, Westphalie, Germany. We know that the birth date and place is incorrect and have found no other reference to Christophe having a first name of Ernst.)

  • Sources 
    1. [S24] Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Gale Research, (Name: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;;), Database online. Place: Winterhill, Massachusetts; Year: 1778; Page Number: 46.
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